The Disappearance of Justin Gaines and Kyle Fleischmann – Possibly Connected?
Posted by KindraLore on November 15, 2007
As pointed out to me in the blog Analyzing the Surveillance Video of Kyle Fleishmann, the man in this video in this video I thought was Kyle IS NOT Kyle. In other words, where I state that a blonde girl is touching his waist, etc.. that is not Kyle. Kyle can be seen in the video on for a brief moment, wearing a black shirt and walking past the blonde girl. To see the video of Kyle highlighted, go here and chose VIDEO: Surveillance Video Shows Missing Man Leaving Bar on the right hand side.
I do apologize for this confusing mistake as I try to make everything as accurate as possible here, but the article in which I obtained the information, was not clear or either I am dense. Again I do apologize.
Update 12/10/07 11:18AM
At a vigil for his son Sunday, Dick Fleishmann conceded that his son Kyle Fleishmann has more than likely been the victim of foul play and is deceased.
CMPD’s Missing Persons detectives have released a video of Kyle at the Buckhead Saloon the night of his disappearance. It shows Kyle standing at the doorway as if he is waiting on someone. A man approaches Kyle and they exchange words. A blonde girl then engages in conversation with him and they make their way to the door. They seem to know each other or at least have some previous encounter as she touches him around the waist at one point.Kyle’s father is hoping someone will come forward. “I can’t believe that there’s someone on that tape that doesn’t know something or at least help us better than we are today,” said Fleischmann.In the meantime, a surveillance video of Justin Gaines‘ last moments at Wild Bill’s has also been released.
Surveillance video from Wild Bill’s shows Gaines arrive and greet a couple of friends, then walk out of frame. A security guard told investigators he saw Gaines leave a few hours later.
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Update 11/26/07 8:14PM
Today reports surface that Justin Gaines has an arrest warrant out for him for forgery (fake ID) and open container for an arrest on June 21st. What this has to do with Justin’s case if anything I am not sure. According to his stepfather, they were minor infractions and not enough to warrant Justin to disappear on his own.
As far as an update on Kyle Fleischmann – The reward has increased to $25,000. His family are organizing a vigil for this week.
Update 11/24/07 7:41PM
Members of the Georgia State Defense Force searched for missing 18 year old Justin Gaines today. The soldiers are part of an unpaid, volunteer force, and they have the training and experience needed to cover a lot of ground. No reports as of yet of what they have found if anything.
The family is frustrated at this point due to the fact that they state that some of Justin’s friends have been less than cooperative regarding Justin’s disappearance. I’m still confused as to what this means since I thought Justin was alone at the time of his disappearance. From what I have read, a couple friend of his drove him to Wild Bill’s but for some reason had to return home and Justin stayed. They told him that they would not be able to come back for him.
Another confusing aspect of the case is on Wild Bill’s website it states:
Last seen walking toward a car that he called his ride with 2 men standing by the car.
Reports also say he was seen in the parking lot of Barnacles with these same 2 men.
IF YOU AS MUCH AS SPOKE to him that night please contact Gwinnett Police.
However, I have not seen this information in any news article, nor on the site for Justin.
As for the search for Kyle Fleischmann, there have been no new developments as well. Last week hundreds of volunteers searched for Kyle in uptown Charlotte. Police previously took items from his home for search dogs to follow his scent with. However, as Thanksgiving has come and gone there are no new answers to either family in the disappearance of their sons.
I have been thinking about this and connecting these two in my mind. These are my thoughts and mine alone, but I cannot somehow wonder if the disappearances of Justin Gaines and Kyle Fleishchmann are not possibly connected.
Justin Gaines was last seen at Wild Bill’s in Duluth, GA on Thursday night, November 1st. Kyle Fleischmann disappeared from Buckhead Saloon in Charlotte, NC in the early morning hours of Friday morning (was at the club also on a Thursday night) on 11/9/7.
As you see from the map, these two bars are approximately a 3 ½ hour drive.
Kyle Fleischmann is a 6’0″, 24-year-old male with brown hair. He has a muscular build and weighs approx. 180lbs.
Justin is described as being 5″11′ and 210 lbs with a muscular build. He has blue eyes and brown hair with a short buzz cut.
Looking at their pictures, they look very similar.
Justin is 18, Kyle 24. Both men reportedly stepped outside the bars they were in and made phone calls. Neither has been seen since.
Could there be a possible connection?
If you have information about Justin Gaines is asked to call the Gwinnett County Police Department at 770-513-5300.
If you have information about the whereabouts of Kyle Fleischmann is urged to call Crime Stoppers at (704) 334-1600.
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